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[–]Hockenheim 28 points29 points ago

ViolentAcrez was kind enough to post a chatlog between him and reddit general manager hueypriest!

"hueypriest: we're making a policy change regarding jailbait type content. Don't really have a choice."

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[–]shitposter2000 25 points26 points ago

Maybe it's time that the wider world learned about violentacrez's close relationship with reddit admins. Just sayin.

[–]dbzer0I revived /r/SRS and all I got was this lousy flair! 8 points9 points ago

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points ago

Fuck, that's pretty much the last straw for me as far as this shitty website goes. I could almost deal with the userbase being a bunch of shitlords but when the admins are in cahoots with that soulless husk of a human being it just makes me rage.

[–]DonnorCorporate Mercenary of the Gynocracy 18 points19 points ago

Holy cannoli, I still wonder how there can be people that actually think like this. It's just so... so...

Wonderful!

At least, until I remember that actual children were actual victims of abuse because of this. Then I want to curl up into a ball and cry.

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points ago

Has anybody seen this thread yet?

I don't even.

[–]ernestovalga 22 points23 points ago

Holy Lord I could barely make it through this. So many people comparing rotten, borderline apples to disgusting, illegal oranges. "But it's just like the Sears Catalog!" NO IT FUCKING WASN'T YOU HORRID WASTES OF AIR!

[–]wikidd 29 points30 points ago

I got VA himself calling me a liar!

Here's the comment of his I linked.

[–]fxexularget down on it, dadada, get down on it, dododo[S] 1 point2 points ago

That's absolute gold.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points ago

First they came for the child porn, but I didn't care because I wasn't a pedo.

Then they came for the kink and S&M communities, but I didn't care as I am not a kinkster.

Then they came for the condoms, but I didn't care as I am forever alone.

Finally the feminazi SA goons came for my penis, but at this point it was too late to stop their sadistic agenda to suppress all male sexuality.

Normally I'm not a fan of the strawmanning we do in these circlejerk threads, but goddamn the amount of slippery slope arguments is fucking laughable.

[–]billraydrums 30 points31 points ago

"I've outlived my dick" Willie Nelson

[–]veijeriBerry-Flavored Biotruths 3 points4 points ago

http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/pmj7f/a_necessary_change_in_policy/c3qx1wz

This idiot was seriously arguing to me that this could lead to banning of pictures of empty boxes, because someone could be imagining a child in it. That's how slippery this slope has gotten!

And all of this could be prevented if only a puritanical feminist muslim like me could quit attacking his sexuality!

[–]Pythiasnipplewon't somebody think of the manchildren? 3 points4 points ago

Eh, the penis wasn't doing much anyway.

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[–]office_fisting_partyWarrior of the Fem'Hadar 32 points33 points ago*

That is a gorgeous wall of tears, thank you for finding it.

e: jk that has to be a joke

e2: the responses, however, are hilarious

[–]sarcelle◕ ‿ ◕ 28 points29 points ago

They also share delusions of communicating with a dead Messiah figure, in this case Richard "Lowtax" Kyanka, who passed away in 2009.

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[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 18 points19 points ago

I had a whiff of Poe from the "Godwin, etc" at the end, but somehow I skimmed over this "dead Messiah figure" business.

[–]r89w 14 points15 points ago

There has never been any CP on Reddit. If you claim otherwise, prove it.

In other words, provide me with CP plz.

[–]drunkenstatisticianCoin-Operated Boy 10 points11 points ago

[–]sweetcommunist 10 points11 points ago

My favorite part is the Wikipedia link to "moral panic."

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 18 points19 points ago

Oh hohoho, this is amazing. So much beardhurt.

[–]FmMan3 1 point2 points ago

Yes, and you're a co-conspirator.

[–]SickFedUpWithReddit 0 points1 point ago

I tried to argue reason with them, apparently I can expect a libel lawsuit from Conde Nast and Reddit any time soon.

Next time, I'm not going anywhere near their ramblings. I'm sure they will interpret this as victory.

[–]Khanstant 1 point2 points ago

What exactly is TrueReddit? It sounds as if they want it to be like perhaps reddit was a long time ago but I am skeptical because the only time I ever end up there is from shit like this.

[–]melteddalidemilitarized friendzone 69 points70 points ago

UGH I want to rip my hair out at this point. PEDOPHILIA IS NOT A SEXUAL ORIENTATION, it is an attraction to an age group and if acted upon is a predatory behavior that harms people. Stop conflating this with consensual LGBT relationships.

[–]DuckTruck 40 points41 points ago

it's funny that these are people who laugh at 'well gay rights lead to bestiality and worse' arguments while making them come true all at once.

[–]mind_drips 17 points18 points ago

Gay marriage? What's next, marrying a turtle?

[–]mrwadia 16 points17 points ago

I wish. Turtles are awesome.

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[–]jailtime9912 8 points9 points ago

I live next door to a couple of lesbians who have big dogs. My father's thought process:

  1. They are lesbians.
  2. They are therefore deviants.
  3. The dogs sniff butts.
  4. Therefore, because they are lesbians and therefore deviants, they engage in bestiality with the dogs.

I don't understand that thought process at all.

[–]Pythiasnipplewon't somebody think of the manchildren? 14 points15 points ago

It's hilarious/depressing that both paedophiles and the conservative right do their best to try to merge same sex attraction with paedophilia.

[–]Pony_Stanza 58 points59 points ago

True story:

I was walking to the living room with a coffee mug in my hand and I tripped and spilled the coffee on my keyboard and I accidentally typed out the Redditbomb while wiping the keys clean and accidentally hit submit.

I'm so sorry pedos, I never meant for any of this to happen!

[–]ZiggamorphHouse Ungynocratic Activities Committee Chair 32 points33 points ago

YOU ARE SO CLUMSY PONY_STANZA LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE NOW

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 34 points35 points ago

[–]PixelF 16 points17 points ago

You. I like you.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 20 points21 points ago

[–]feminista8Corporate Spy From SA 12 points13 points ago

My Little Face When, My Little Face When...

Ah-a-ah-a-ah...

(My Little Face When)

I used to wonder what my face could be

(My Little Face When)

Until you all shared Pedogeddon with me

Big-shit posters

Tons of tears!

Dumb-fuckery filled with

Irrational fears

Sharing CP

Is no easy feat

When SRS makes it all delete! (Yeah!)

My Little Face When

Don't you know you're all the very best suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuub

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 8 points9 points ago

This is amazing! :)

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[–]ChivasAribasthe prodigal daughter of the Grand Gynocratic Council 34 points35 points ago

God damn that is good. Like I wish I had a box of Triscuits handy so I could smear this on them and just eat it.

Maybe smoosh two together and have a sorta pedotears sandwich.

[–]GlassFlamingos 38 points39 points ago

You know lembas, the magical food of the Lothlorien elves? It's actually made of triscuits and beardhurt pedo tears. This is what gives them their life sustaining property.

[–]ernestovalga 23 points24 points ago

OMG WE ARE GOING TO LIVE FOREVER

[–]jackdanielsliver 40 points41 points ago

Reddit is a great free speech zone where shitty people can talk about how much they hate minorities, women, and conservatives. DON'T YOU DARE TALK BAD ABOUT PEDOS THOUGH!

[–]buttermansion 12 points13 points ago

Man, the bit in this post where this guy says "they got rid of child porn. what next? Getting rid of all posts supporting julian assange?" is so stereotypical of reddit idiotness that it has to be a troll. please be a troll.

[–]Pony_Stanza 13 points14 points ago

I stole this from SA:

Troll!' said I, `poster of shit - morality police, if goon or devil!

By that admin that bends above us - by those subreddits we adore -

Tell this poster with orange fingers, Dew stained shirt, ragged and torn,

It shall clasp a sainted maiden, a underage maiden with green hair and kawaii form

Clasp a rare and radiant love pillow, with open arms and petite form

Quoth the goon, `Child porn.'

`See the rage comic I am tracing!!' I shrieked upstarting -

`Get thee back into your foul paid forum, moderated and scorned!

Leave none of my manga's spines broken as a token of that lie thy soul hath spoken!

Leave my loneliness unbroken! - quit the wall scroll above my door!

Take thy posts from off my forum, and leave my karma intact and unshorn!'

Quoth the goon 'Child porn.'

And the goon, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting

On the bust of Aerith just above my chamber door;

And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,

And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;

And my karma lies fleeting, my computer chair's seating, lies broken on the floor

And the subreddits are closed forever due to...child porn!

[–]Contra_Calculus♕ ♘ ❀ In the Game of Thrones, You Win or You Dildz ❀ ♘ ♕ 8 points9 points ago

Somewhat off-topic:

You wouldn't by any chance know a Tony Danza Claus? Your names are similar, that's why I ask.

[–]Pony_Stanza 12 points13 points ago

Me? I wish I was as handsome and sexy as that guy.

[–]Contra_Calculus♕ ♘ ❀ In the Game of Thrones, You Win or You Dildz ❀ ♘ ♕ 5 points6 points ago

We all want to be that guy some day.

edit: also, he was posting that in here

[–]DonnorCorporate Mercenary of the Gynocracy 3 points4 points ago

No, that's me. Why? You a big fan?

[–]Contra_Calculus♕ ♘ ❀ In the Game of Thrones, You Win or You Dildz ❀ ♘ ♕ 3 points4 points ago

VERY BIG

[–]trimalchio-worktime 79 points80 points ago

After reading all this insightful commentary, I'm forced to concede that we've destroyed all freedom on the internet.

[–]Pony_Stanza 34 points35 points ago

What about our freedom to oppress them and shackle their penises?

[–]emmsterBends balla ass spoons with her mind. 27 points28 points ago

I think we're supposed to keep that a secret now.

[–]Pony_Stanza 27 points28 points ago

Secret penis shackles? But they're really noisy and the chains drag on the ground.

I'm confused.

[–]emmsterBends balla ass spoons with her mind. 21 points22 points ago

Have you been letting your prisoners out in public?!

[–]Pony_Stanza 23 points24 points ago

I believe in raising free range castrated white men.

[–]IdownVoteYouAllI can't hear you over my privilege 11 points12 points ago

I'm going to start asking these shit heads if they would get some of those pictures developed at a photo center. Those /preteen_girls pictures would be given right to the police and land them in jail.

[–]trimalchio-worktime 1 point2 points ago

That would require them to leave their hard drives unsupervised for too long. Can't let the FBI make a case...

[–]BetweenJobs 88 points89 points ago

"Reddit was a great place until they stopped enabling the sexual exploitation of children."

  • Professor No One Ever In All of Time, PhD

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[–]FacewizardUgh ugh ugh -1 points0 points ago

Ah, yes, this flavor of vintage derailment has a full, hoppy nose. I highly recommend it!

http://i.imgur.com/xsXqP.gif

[–]slowmotionjonesWhite Knight of the White Laundes 2 points3 points ago

Some futuristic Edward Gibbon-esque historian will author a grand treatise on the Great Fall of Freedom of Speech, where the death of open dialogue will be heralded with the prohibition on child pornography on some minor, skeezy website.

And then he will be laughed out of his department.

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[–]ohmammaliaperceive themselves as to be victims 29 points30 points ago

YOU CANT MAKE ME SHUTUP YOU NAZI!!!!! THE CONSTITUTION HAS GRANTED ME THE INALIENABLE RIGHT TO NEVER SHUTUP NOT EVER NO MATTER WHAT (ALSO DO GROSS, ILLEGAL THINGS ON THE INTERNET AND PRETEND THEY'RE NEITHER GROSS NOR ILLEGAL AND THEN BAW WHEN I'M INFORMED THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY GROSS AND ILLEGAL)

-PRESIDENT RON PAUL

[–]MeiWonderfulB-B-B-BENNEY AND THE DILDZ 19 points20 points ago

[–]wq678 119 points120 points ago*

Reddit:

The right to wear the face veil in France or build Mosque towers in Switzerland?

Not protected under freedom of expression or religion, they should be banned by national legistlation.

Banning pedophile subreddits that sexualize children?

DON'T YOU DARE TOUCH MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FEMINIST WHORES

-sigh-

One must appreciate Reddit's impassioned philosophical defense of pedophilia.

[–]Lemonegropenis oppressor 19 points20 points ago

Redditors are fucking stupid.

[–]Professor-Plum 8 points9 points ago

Succinctly put.

[–]ToxtethOGradyFriendzoned Nice Guy 82 points83 points ago

It's becoming more and more apparent that Reddit holds The Right To Masturbate over any and all other concerns.

[–]ArchangelleUrielleOF OUR LADY'S RADIANCE 34 points35 points ago

Freedom of creep is protected by the zeroth amendment.

[–]ZerothLawThe Great White Knight Superhero!!1 26 points27 points ago

HEY. I RESEMBLE THAT REMARK!

[–]BritishHobo 39 points40 points ago

You ever been in an /r/relationships post where a girl's said she's uncomfortable with her boyfriend masturbating to porn? The reaction's always as if she's said she wants to prevent him from eating or breathing.

[–]SetupGuy 36 points37 points ago*

I read a post where the OP said his SO told him smoking was a deal breaker, and wanted advice because she just caught him smoking (should add that he had been smoking for 3+ months under the radar) and kicked him out or broke up with him or something.

Everyone said she was "emotionally abusing him "...(?)

[–]BritishHobo 31 points32 points ago

Haha, jesus. I really hate that place, it's a subreddit for people with real relationship issues to take out their anger on the people actually asking for advice. Someone asks for advice, the commenters judge them based on their own standards for relationships, and instead of telling them what they could do better, they tell them why they're fucking stupid for having done wrong in the first place. If the post is about a cheating partner, or by a cheating partner, the comments are basically just open season for people to completely offload their fury. So much anger in there, it's kind of scary.

There are a lot of helpful people there, but a lot of crazies, too. I get the feeling it's people who've been cheated on and scour the place for similar situations in order to try and prevent it happening again, like a demented internet-bound Batman.

[–]foxie1372 1 point2 points ago

Bit late for this, I know, but "crazy" isn't the appropriate word. Being "of a delicate mental nature" myself, I can assure you that it's not crazy-- it's willfully spiteful and narrow minded.

Shit, I'm bipolar I and recovering from borderline PD, and I don't have those problems relating to people.

[–]cigerectself-hating man 16 points17 points ago

The reaction is similar when a woman doesn't shower her boyfriend/husband in blowjobs or otherwise succumb to his every sexual whim.

The male orgasm is the penultimate human right (second only to market freedom, of course ).

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 63 points64 points ago

The more effortposts I read, the happier I am with the fallout from paedogeddon. Give me your delicious necktears, reddit!

[–]greenduch 79 points80 points ago

Next up, redditors misunderstand freedom of speech. Again, and again, and again.

Oh noes! Some stuff that might only be borderline child porn might have gotten swept up in the nazi-SRS-goon-conspiracy raid!

I could care less. Burn it all.

[–]BetweenJobs 89 points90 points ago*

Redditors are very cautious people. When confronted with a moral gray area, they like to err on the side of easy access to borderline child porn over stopping child exploitation.

[–]outwrangleThe Nicknamer 24 points25 points ago

Actually, it's 'err' not 'error'.

[–]BetweenJobs 14 points15 points ago

TIL. Corrected.

[–]Arkeia 27 points28 points ago

People confuse freedom of speech with relativism, that the US government can't create a law to prevent you from expressing your opinion doesn't mean that all opinions are equally valid!

To quote Isaac Asimov: "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

I'm so tired that everyone that fells threatened by what is common sense, I mean seriously have you seen the thumbnails sexualization of children is never "OK"

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[–][deleted] 24 points25 points ago

Yes, we're like a modern day Online Prohibition Movement, no one here smokes weed, drinks or even dances. I miss seeing Kita around, she has the best flair as The Queen of No Funnington.

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[–][deleted] 12 points13 points ago

To give oneself over to whimsical syncopation is affront to my prudent nature! Have we no modesty?!

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points ago

Honestly, I have no problems with /r/trees (due to me being pro-legalization and because they're generally pretty nice people there), and as much of a pit as /r/atheism is most of the time, banning it would cause the general religion-bashing to leak out into other subreddits even more than it does now.

[–]cigerectself-hating man 95 points96 points ago

I really, sincerely hope that these people (and their upvoters) didn't actually see the kind of shit that was posted in tessoro's subreddit. I don't want to believe that so many people would so passionately (and publicly) defend that shit...

I mean, a lot of these commenters seem to be under the impression that the subreddit just had G-rated pictures in a creepy context. Perhaps these people just don't realize how vile the submissions were, which is why they see this as an attack on their freedoms and—

WAIT. The fuck is wrong with me? This is reddit. Child pornography is A-OKAY as long as you don't exchange it for bitcoins. Our right to Free Speech™ is much more important than the privacy rights of abused children. There is lhitlerally no difference between 14 year-olds sexting each other and adults trading sexually explicit images of preteeBLARHGH!!

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 29 points30 points ago

Yeah, the thumbnails I saw in that rage comic.... [shudder]

[–]cigerectself-hating man 35 points36 points ago

And they weren't even the worst.

Before the /r/WTF post, I found that subreddit on someone's user page while gathering material for an effortpost (one that has been in the making for several weeks now). I don't have thumbnails enabled, but I previewed some of the images with RES, and they were seriously fucking awful. The OP was probably afraid (and rightfully so) of including the more shocking images in their post.

They were so appalling that I didn't really even want to show it to SRS; I just wanted it to go away without creating a shit circus. So I messaged the admins about it, naively assuming that the only reason it had not been banned yet was because they didn't know it existed. I asked pleaded that it be removed before people found out about it and assembled an ephebpedo vanguard to protect it.

Not ironically, about 24 hours after I sent the message that post blew up in /r/WTF.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 21 points22 points ago

I'm sorry you had to see them at all, given that the whole thing blew up shortly thereafter.

Wonder how that r/wtf post ever got through to the front page? I always assumed that violentacrez got to be mod there to prevent any more black eyes.

[–]cigerectself-hating man 20 points21 points ago

He probably wanted it to blow up. The shocked and outraged users would amuse him and provide fertile trolling ground. Everyone else would be a potential recruit.

It was win/win for him, really.

[–]sarcelle◕ ‿ ◕ 13 points14 points ago

But free speech! He was hoisted by his own petard. Or didn't notice it until it was too late.

[–]DuckTruck 16 points17 points ago

Well I didn't see them, but I was wondering did they look like they were shot specifically for sexual stuff or just out of context pictures?

If someone was intentionally sexualizing a preteen to post on reddit, then, well, I just don't know anymore.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 32 points33 points ago

extreme tw

The one I found most upsetting was a girl kneeling on a bed facing away from the camera. She was looking back over her shoulder and raising her skirt above her waist to show her underwear. It was entitled, "Nice Ass."

Thankfully, I only saw it at about 120 x 75 , or I may have thrown my monitor out a window.

I'm not sure what other possible context that picture could have occupied. Certainly not a goddamn "Sears catalog."

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[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 16 points17 points ago

Well that makes it like 100x worse :( :( I'm sorry you saw it well enough to learn that.

[–]Pythiasnipplewon't somebody think of the manchildren? 9 points10 points ago

I'm going to bed now, and I'm going to try to sleep. I think the last four days has pretty much killed any lingering affection for reddit.

[–]Lethalgeek 21 points22 points ago

That pretty much describes all of them. Thong, too short a skirt (or flat out lifting it), bent over something.

Hell one was a GIF of a idk..10? year old girl in booty shorts peddling away on an exercise bike, ass in the air.

Part of me wants to link that GIF to the people who are FREE SPEECH and ask them "so you, so & so, are 100% ok with this in the name of free speech?"

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 20 points21 points ago

The saddest part of that is that anyone who has been defending predditors at this point either a) would be 100% ok with that or b) is so invested in their horrible position by this point that they literally cannot bring themselves to back down.

In the end, it only furthers the exploitation of the children involved (which is why I assume you aren't linking them around).

The whole thing makes me sick; it's like a stain that only ever spreads, but can't be cleaned up.

[–]Lethalgeek 11 points12 points ago

Oh I'd so want them to respond that way so I could screenshit it and get me a nice collection of "people who will defend blatantly lewd pictures of children because of their shitty political opinions"

[–]SetupGuy 8 points9 points ago

"predditors" == GOLD, JERRY, GOLD

Why have I not heard about this sooner?

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 4 points5 points ago

Glad to share it, picked it p somewhere around here myself! :)

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I just threw up in my mouth a little.

[–]DuckTruck 19 points20 points ago

jesus Christ that is sexualizd beyond belief. Good thing someone takes I seriously.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 21 points22 points ago*

Yeah, it was really horrible. I have nothing but admiration for the people who are chasing down the remaining subpeddits and reporting them. That image was enough for me to

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

and GTFO of there--and I saw it in a rage comic, of all things.

[–]FacewizardUgh ugh ugh 2 points3 points ago

subpeddits-- you are on a word coinage ROLL

[–]kingerp 2 points3 points ago

jesus fuck, I really wish I hadn't read that. That's what I get for ignoring your trigger warning I guess.

Fuck everything about that and fuck anybody who would defend that shit under the premise of free speech. The sheer amount of cognitive dissonance necessary to make that kind of argument must be record-breaking.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 1 point2 points ago

Yeah, I really can't understand it. Like, honestly, I can almost vaguely conceive of the kind of people who acknowledge that it's horrible but get off on it anyways, but to pretend that is not horrible is just.... like you say, cognitive dissonanceinfinity

[–]cigerectself-hating man 27 points28 points ago*

From what I saw, most of the images definitely had sexual intent.

But to let you know just how awful they were, I'll describe the two that I remember. They appeared to be two of the highest voted submissions at that time, burned into my memory like a fucking car crash. Obviously, a [TRIGGER WARNING] for the graphic descriptions that follow.

One image looked like it was taken in public. A very young girl (8-10) was standing in the ocean in her underwear, which, due to being wet, was basically completely transparent. Nothing left to the imagination. The title was even something like "Almost Transparent".

The other was taken on a bed or something. The girl (~10-12) was wearing a tank top/t-shirt and a thong, and she was lying on her back, holding her legs behind her head. Her barely covered genitals were clearly the focus of the image. IIRC, the title was something really terrible about "daddy" or being a "good girl", but I might be thinking of another post.

I feel creepy as fuck typing that out, and sorry to anyone who reads it, but I think people are really underestimating how insane that subreddit was. Not only are people defending it—apparently those images weren't bad enough to warrant a ban without the threat of bad press.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 21 points22 points ago

Right, I felt the same creepiness overwhelming me as I was describing one of the images. But it's important to be clear exactly what we're talking about, and not let people get away with describing them as "just regular candids" because it makes us uncomfortable to correct them. Even though it felt bad, you did good.

[–]MHiroko 15 points16 points ago

I agree. I haven't actually seen any of the pics on there, but after reading about how they were "innocent candids," I wondered what the nature of them were. This really clarifies it. BLEGH!!!

[–]cigerectself-hating man 8 points9 points ago

<3

At least neither of us had to be the only one doing it, heh.

[–]mind_drips 16 points17 points ago

What's even more sad is that I tried to argue that the stuff in that subreddit was clearly illegal and violated all sorts of CP laws. One response I got was basically "I bet you haven't even visited that subreddit, they're not even nude."

Apparently seeing stuff in r/pre_teengirls just makes redditors *more * likely to defend it.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 12 points13 points ago*

There was also the popular "I haven't been there, but let me tell you what kinds of things I think are there and why those things are ok" line of argument.

Edit: I wasn't making fun of you or anything, I just literally saw predditors arguing both sides of this.

[–]str1ckenPity Me - I Am But A Friendzoned White Knight 66 points67 points ago

Yeah, I posted the below in one of those threads. I can't believe it either. I really want to believe that the people who insist that the pictures were innocent and no big deal didn't actually go to the subreddit.

As a point of fact, some of the pictures posted in /r/preteen_girls were from larger photosets of young girls who were victims of molestation/child pornography.

I have to assume that you didn't actually browse that subreddit, because the images were chilling and disturbing.

It was not pictures of little girls ripped from the Children's Place bathing suit catalog.

It was pictures of young girls - preteens - in underwear, sometimes lingerie, posed sexually.

Child abuse occured in the production (of at the minimum some) of the photographs in that subreddit.

Children aren't equipped physically, psychologically, or legally to resist or escape this kind of exploitation and it can cause permanent emotional and physical damage.

Child pornography is indefensible, and child pornographers don't deserve you coming to their defense.

I agree that 'perverted' and 'perversion' are loaded words that have been used to describe just about anything two consenting adults can do in privacy. Sometimes it's hard for people to come up with the right words. Those weren't ceol_'s words, anyway, they were alllie's, who he was responding to.

I don't know what the word is, but sexually abusing a child is one of the worst things one human being can do to another, and we've been exceptionally creative in finding ways to hurt one another. Whatever a synonym for 'almost unimaginably horrible', child pornography is that.

[–]SetupGuy 31 points32 points ago

Found this on SRS, a DoJ write-up about child exploitation (BIG trigger warning):

http://www.justice.gov/criminal/ceos/ReluctantRebellionResponse.pdf

As hard as it is to read, I think every fucking apologist in the /r/blog thread should be required to read it in full before posting again. It's a good read (again, trigger warning), it goes into why it's fucking illegal to even look at these pictures, and all the harm that is caused even in cases of seeming "consent" (/vomit) or pictures that don't have nudity.

The heart of a child pornography case is not Victorian-era discomfort with sex, but the sexual exploitation of children through the ongoing mass circulation of images of their abuse. As the Supreme Court noted in New York v. Ferber, 458 U.S. 747, 756-57, 58 (1982), “It is evident beyond the need for elaboration that a State’s interest in safeguarding the physical and psychological well-being of a minor is compelling ... [and that] the use of children as subjects of pornographic materials is harmful to the physiological, emotional, and mental health of the child

I am truly appalled at the seemingly indefensible position redditors place themselves in, to try to defend this nonsense under the guise of free speech or some other complete bullshit.

[–]cigerectself-hating man 14 points15 points ago

You're right; some of that was hard to read, but it is very well-argued. This quote in particular is pretty powerful:

“Usually, when a kid is hurt and the abuser goes to prison, the abuse is over. But because [the defendant] put my pictures on the Internet the abuse is still going on. Anyone can see them. People are still downloading them ... I’m more upset about the pictures on the Internet than I am about what [the defendant] did to me physically.”

As is this one:

Another child pornography victim, who was raped and bound repeatedly by a relative for 2 years starting at age 10, writes “thinking about all those sick perverts viewing my body being ravished and hurt like that makes me feel like I was raped by each and every one of them."

It'd be nice to see more psychological and sociological evidence for the author's argument. I realize that the context is criminal law rather than social science, but it will take more than judicial opinions (e.g. 'CP is harmful because the Supreme Court says so') to convince some people.

But it's an enlightening read and a great resource nonetheless. Bookmarked and saved. Hopefully people will start whipping it out for the pedosplainers. Thanks for sharing.

[–]cigerectself-hating man 38 points39 points ago

As a point of fact, some of the pictures posted in /r/preteen_girls were from larger photosets of young girls who were victims of molestation/child pornography.

Wow. I had not heard this. Jesus Christ. That makes comments like this and this so much more despicable.

Unfortunately, I did kind of browse that subreddit to see how bad it was (explained in this comment). And for the sake of my sanity I'm going to assume that the pedopologists didn't actually see the subreddit and are unaware of the fact quoted above.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 19 points20 points ago

I had not heard it confirmed, but just based on the few images I saw, I did assume this was the case. Ugh. Ugh ugh ugh.

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[–]cigerectself-hating man 4 points5 points ago

On reddit or in general? I sure hope it's not happening on reddit.

I was just referring to the oft-repeated (on reddit, at least) argument that downloading and viewing child pornography isn't harmful to the children involved as long the viewer doesn't pay the manufacturer for it.

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[–]cigerectself-hating man 6 points7 points ago

Fuck, I hate CP. It makes stuff like Freenet and Tor bad, when really they should be seen as tools of freedom used to throw off restrictive government regimes.

It really is unfortunate. A lot of less-informed people seem to equate Tor and Freenet with the CP trade, unaware of their intended (and quite important) purposes.

Another unfortunate truth is that all the traffic on the Tor network generated by people exchanging child pornography actually helps to obscure the goings-on of its legitimate users. That's kind of what makes Tor so effective: if the only people using it were whistle-blowers and the politically oppressed, it would be much easier to single them out. Instead, their traffic is camouflaged by the people buying drugs, trading CP, filesharing, hiring hitmen, etc.

If people want to point fingers, they should put more pressure on those hosting providers that tend to look the other way when their services are used to host child pornography. Obviously, Tor and Freenet shouldn't include mechanisms that allow specific traffic to be sniffed out and censored. But I think hosting providers can prohibit CP from being stored and served up on their machines without affecting the security or integrity of the network.

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[–]AlternatePFGMember of the SRS Cult 14 points15 points ago

Well, Redidt likes to delude themselves into thinking that they are the sole leaders of the armies of the internet against the dreaded menace known as SOPA.

[–]Morilore 17 points18 points ago

"Recent events are actually about {SA conspiracy/censorship slippery slope/corporate takeover/literally anything other than actual kiddie porn subreddits where actual pedophiles traded actual kiddie porn}." - Reddit

[–]AlternatePFGMember of the SRS Cult 17 points18 points ago

What the fuck is wrong with these people?

Who gives a shit about the extremely obvious, extremely illegal child abuse right in front of our faces, my personal freedoms are much more important than that.

[–]stardebris 8 points9 points ago

I have tasted their tears and lo, my SRSisters and SRSothers, and my strength has increased tenfold! Lick the salted water of despair and see that it holds incredible power beyond your very comprehension.

[–]Hands 21 points22 points ago*

So much outrageously myopic stupidity. This is truly one of the most pathetic episodes in Reddit's history. I like how all of these high and mighty FREE SPEECH!!11 neckbeards fail to acknowledge that CP is illegal and that non-nude suggestive photography can also be defined as CP (not that any of them bothered to look that up before QQing) and that even innocent pictures of children count as exploitation if they are used for an exploitative purpose (e.g. for nasty pedofucks to masturbate to them).

I also like how none of them seem to realize that freedom of speech doesn't even apply to reddit anyway and that if they want this site to even have a chance of surviving another five years that they need to distance themselves from shit like this as much as possible because nobody is going to defend Reddit from the government if the government's argument is that it's a place to trade CP or even just jailbait stuff.

The best part is when people try to act like SOPA is even remotely relevant here. Because Reddit censoring itself == the government censoring Reddit.

[–]greenduch 6 points7 points ago

Might want to edit the fatphobia before the mods call you on it.

[–]Hands 11 points12 points ago

Thanks, done. You're just referring to using the adjective "fat" as part of a pejorative right? I'm still getting the hang of the rules and culture around here, appreciate it!

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 12 points13 points ago

That's right. Anyone can make a mistake. You're only a shitlord if you argue that it wasn't wrong in the first place!

Nice work getting rid of that slur before you got a CONE OF SHAME :)

[–]greenduch 9 points10 points ago

Awesome, thanks. :D

Yeah, some of the rules around here can take some getting used to, but I find that so long as I don't mind being called on it when I fuck it up, it all works out pretty well.

[–]ohmammaliaperceive themselves as to be victims 14 points15 points ago

Not even the admins are willing to really admit that the free speech cover is bullshit. They just keep begging their beardbase to forgive them for this evil oppression because it isn't their fault and if it were up to them everybody on reddit could do whatever they wanted. IT'S ALL OUR FAULT.

[–]New_Wav 8 points9 points ago

I've know reddit is one sided for a long time now and for a while when I first joined this cite I rolled with the hive mind to a bit as much as I don't like to admit it.

But the defense of CP just sickens me and I can't understand how a community of people generally so self proclaimed as informed and up on current events can be so retarded and blind to a clearly illegal topic and that they totally over look the fact that reddit for no reason has to provide them free speech since it is a private website. Not being able to move beyond that also seems really hard to people, not just on reddit but in life in general.

[–]razzark666dismembered, sexualized and deep-fried 9 points10 points ago

Ugghhhh don't they realize you get free speech from the government, and not from private websites?

[–]FeminismShavedMyCatSTEM majors are for suckas 8 points9 points ago

I think it's time I came clean about this, fellow SRSisters:

I am SomethingAwful.com.

Oh god, what have I done?

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fierce defenses

[–]Contra_Calculus♕ ♘ ❀ In the Game of Thrones, You Win or You Dildz ❀ ♘ ♕ 14 points15 points ago

Guys, you'd better ban me. I'm a goon and clearly me being one person and posting in SRS for my first time means that it's a Somethingawful conspiracy.

[–]Pony_Stanza 7 points8 points ago

[–]lolspeedboat 11 points12 points ago

TIL THAT THE CREATOR OF SOMETHINGAWFUL.COM WAS LITERALLY HITLER.

[–]int_argcThat's what zie said! 11 points12 points ago

WHY ELSE WOULD THEY HOST IT IN ARGENTINA?

[–]DonnorCorporate Mercenary of the Gynocracy 4 points5 points ago*

Well, here's yet another guy: Honestly, these types of people are getting a bit exhausting

edit: changed it. Screw that SRSBusiness post, it can just go here

[–]Don_Quijoder 2 points3 points ago*

Are you sure you linked the right post? That link goes to /r/wtf for me.

[–]DonnorCorporate Mercenary of the Gynocracy 2 points3 points ago

haha what? I have no idea why it would do that for you. It works fine for me

[–]Don_Quijoder 2 points3 points ago

Wow that's weird. When I click on your link it sends me to this.

Which is your unfortunately downvoted comment in the "This is complete shit, Newser" sub in /r/WTF

[–]DonnorCorporate Mercenary of the Gynocracy 1 point2 points ago

Oh, I'm being confusing again. That's where it should go. I posted this link to SRSBusiness too, but I linked directly to the comment here. I was merely advertising the fact that I put this somewhere else too.

[–]Don_Quijoder 2 points3 points ago

Part of that was my fault. I accidentally linked to /r/wfu in the first post and then later corrected it. Sorry about that.

I hate seeing you get downvoted like that for having a reasonable opinion but /r/WTF is a fucking wasteland.

[–]DonnorCorporate Mercenary of the Gynocracy 2 points3 points ago

I didn't really expect to be well received, as soon as I saw what the guy's number was I dropped out. I was just hoping that maybe, possibly, the guy I was replying to wasn't quite aware of what exactly was being posted in those places

[–]Don_Quijoder 2 points3 points ago

Good job fighting the good fight but here's the thing. They don't care. Many many users of this site have a lack of empathy that I've never seen anywhere else.

"Does it pertain to me and how awesome I am? No? Then fuck you." seems to be the prevailing attitudes in the big subreddits. That kind of explains the libertarian "Fuck you, I've got mine" leanings, the slut-shaming/karmawhore shaming and the fact that many are pissed off that they're not allowed to post and talk about CP.

I mean, how dare someone take away their right to say and post whatever in the hell they want.

[–]djdalekSuch a Carebear 5 points6 points ago

Fucking fuck reddit. Light a match to this place and walk dramatically towards the camera.

[–]kskxt 10 points11 points ago*

Proof that drinking manchild tears cures cancer.

Heck, I'm even featured in one of the screencaps! I love how my argument is completely misrepresented to fit his diatribe.

[–]fxexularget down on it, dadada, get down on it, dododo[S] 10 points11 points ago

I hope your convalescence is as swift as it is delicious.

[–]jumpjumpdie 4 points5 points ago

"Now because suggestive imagery of underaged girls is not allowed, atheists will want to shut down all the christian reddits BAWWWW."

Edit: i saw this brain fart multiple times.

[–]PirateRobotNinjaofDe 8 points9 points ago

Why is it so outlandish to people that certain forms of expression are inherently harmful, and should be restricted?

From R v. Butler (Supreme Court of Canada)

Freedom means that, subject to such limitations as are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others, no one is to be forced to act in a way contrary to his beliefs or his conscience.

[–]Karandras 1 point2 points ago

People from SA hate child porn and this is bad because of gay rights and holocaust comparisons and therefore Lowtax is all the Reddit admins and the constitution is literally being burnt right now furthermore slippery slope

[–]darwinspeed 0 points1 point ago

I decided to rejoin reddit after randomly taking a look at the site today and catching the news. The admins probably did it for the wrong reasons, and they very well might all be pedo-buddies with violentacrez, but damn it was a nice surprise to see all that disgusting shit removed.

[–]Imthecityexplorer 0 points1 point ago

What the fuck reddit? I didn't realise how bad the pictures were (not that any pictures are cool), but I always assumed they were, to quote someone else like something from "a sears catalogue" (again, not that that's cool). Reading here about what they actually contain...WTF. How the fuck can you try and defend this? What the fuck is wrong with these fucking neckbeards?

[–]ironic_racism 0 points1 point ago

Jesus Christ. I leave for a week and this happens? What's next, the US declaring war on Iran?

[–]KillerFuzzball 0 points1 point ago

You guys SA is just jealous of how cool reddit is and all the internet girls it gets.

I guess the ladies love incoherent walls of text. If I'd spent more time in seddit I'd know this

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[–]Lorrderniereally thinks they'll catch that dragon one day 9 points10 points ago

Trying too hard dude.